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Oldkentucky said in April 9th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

Thank you for the wonderful article. Yes, Kentucky is the best program of all time. With Billy Gillispie, it is an odds on favorite to keep the title for many years.

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UCLA11 said in April 9th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

How can you just discount UCLA’s titles? You’re making quite an assumption by suggesting they were illegally obtained. That has never been proven and UCLA is innocent until proven otherwise.
Wooden is the finest coach of all time. That, combined with their great players and number of championships makes them the greatest basketball program of all time.

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mattwaldman said in April 9th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

One of UCLA’s assistants, Gilbert, was sanctioned for illegally recruiting, but the NCAA never took away their titles. The information came out years later. The NCAA does not want to make a big deal out of something and make college basketball look like a fraud. Wooden was clearly a great coach, and he may or may not have known about Gilbert’s tactics of pretty much paying their players. I was not there, but I can speculate on how it takes Wooden 16 years to win a title, and then he goes off and gets 10 out of the next 12. They had tons All Americans sitting the bench happy as could be which isn’t realistic, unless they were being “specially” treated. I did not discount those titles, and even with them Kentucky has the best resume, because they win games more.

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Shack said in April 9th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

I couldn’t agree more! It says a lot when a program can produce wins over such a great period of time.

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uksucks said in April 9th, 2008 at 6:09 pm

sure uk has the most wins of all time, they played in one of the shittiest conferences up until recently when the sec finally became competitive in basketball. football is all the sec has ever been good at and thats why UK has ruled the shitty conference in bball.

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DukeRunsshit said in April 9th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

This is the worst article i have ever read … Kentucky is the scum of basketball and you can’t just discredit UCLA’s wins just because of a bullshit rumor. Kentucky is a joke in the world of sports and their coach Billy Gillispie is the punch line. Just be glad that by some lucky streak Kentucky made it to the tournament this year ..it’s to bad they didn’t even show up to play

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Ben Damron said in April 9th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

You all can talk our your stuff about college basketball, but I know the best team over the long haul and it has not been UCLA or UNC. If Dean Smith had won half of the chapionships his team appeared in the NCAA tournament I would think he’s a genius. He didn’t so you know what I think, if you got the players you win, and he had them and didn’t win a lot. Must have been a coaching problem somewhere based on the number of trips to the NCAA. Argue that if you can, I know the numbers. Wooden may possibly be the best coach of all time and I liked his defense and offense and I have coached, but why did it take him 16 years to win? There will always be discussions about that sort of thing. It was obviously something the NCAA didn’t want to put out like an earlier poster said, to protect the game, but they should have been put on probabtion. They knew if they did that then the game would be tarnished and more turmoil, etc. I think there are a lotta great college teams out there today as evidenced by the final four results. As for “uksucks” I think the SEC has proven their worthiness in the last several years, Fla won two, etc. So you are full of it!
Take your West Coast games and who won it all this year>? UCLA got more calls and breaks during the last several games than any team in history and bowed out to a great Memphis team that could have won it all if they had hit free throws. They didn’t and they didn’t win. UCLA had a darn good team regardless of the help from whistles the last few games and even into the tournament, but after awhile, it will catch up with you! You need to stay out West cause when you talk about the SEC we get serious! GO BIG BLUE, VOLS, GATORS AND TIGERS TOO!

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mattwaldman said in April 9th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

UKsucks: Kentucky has the best winning % and most wins in the NCAA tournament out of any team, and almost all of those games are against out of conference teams. Your whole argument was just discredited.

Dukerunsshit: Do me a favor. Take your NCAA championships. Add them to North Carolina’s titles. You get Kentucky. Enough said. As for the UCLA rumor, they were sanctioned years later, so it is not just a rumor. And Duke really showed up for this years tournament!.. signed Belmont and WVU

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JettJackson said in April 10th, 2008 at 12:30 am

uksucks: In the last 10 years, the SEC and the ACC have the same amount of national titles(3).

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KentuckyIsKing said in April 10th, 2008 at 12:34 am

Dukerunsshit pretty much clarified what every other college basketball fan in the world already knew, and that was that you, and every other Duke fan knows absolutely nothing when it comes to college basketball. Kentucky is at the top of tournament wins, percentage, appearances and they have done that from the begining. Sustained success, my friend. Your Dukies and UNC have played just as long as Kentucky has and can’t match them in any statistical category. In fact, both ACC powers have played more games than Kentucky, yet they have a ton of more loses. So, shut up and watch ESPN for more of rhetorical nonesense.

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ukchamps7 said in April 10th, 2008 at 5:24 am

Duke. Yeah, they showed up for the tourney amid a bunch of hype. Same sh*t, different year. Tough when you’re not getting the ridiculous calls, isn’t it? How many burger boys does the rat king have, btw?

This ranking of the college basketball elite is 100% correct from a statistical point of view. Any attempts to discredit it is at the expense of your intelligence.

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wrhunt said in April 10th, 2008 at 10:45 am

Great Post. Kentucky seems to hold all of the most significant records that really indicate staying power vs. being a “flash in the pan.” I have to agree with you on this one.

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Andy said in April 11th, 2008 at 4:26 am

man yall need to quit hating on duke so much.If duke fans knew nothing about basketball then how come they go to a top 5 school in the country.fucking dumbasses.Little stat for ya duke has been a 1 seed in the tournament 10 of the past 16 years.Not even UCLA did that on their championships run.3 championships and definately the most feared program in the game, i’d throw duke in that talk.Duke doesn’t compare just because they weren’t good til coach K got there.

P.S. Just because Duke has had 2 below excellent season doesn’t give anybody the right to bash the program.You all know they are the most feared team in the game and they are only getting hated on because this is the first chance youve had to bash them in what 20 years.Its like when the yankees started off bad a few years ago and everybody questioned if they still had the talent.I believe the yankees are still a feared team in baseball just like Duke is in basketball.If you didn;t fear Duke, you wouldnt talk so badly about them so lets start writing comments with our brains and not our favorite haterade flavor bitches.

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BruinsRule said in November 19th, 2008 at 12:52 am

Stumbled in here a little late but I think it should be noted: Gilbert was never an assistant. He was a booster who alledgedly helped out players (without any knowledge or consent by the university). The only sanction ( if you want to call it a sanction) was that Gilbert was banned from communicating with players based on suspicion. Of course we can always suspect as to why it is that certain programs such as Duke or N.C. or Kentucky or Kansas always attract top talent through the years. No team is above reproach as to player special treatment, they all recieve it in some form. So take that out of the equation. Maybe you should add that the Wooden era was a 3 year era (freshmen were ineligible) yet U.C.L.A. maintained a level that far surpasses
any accomplishment ever achieved before or since.
10 straight titles, 7 in a row. 69 wins in a row, only to be eclipsed by 88 in row by the same school but a completely different group of people.
Lets match NBA greats school for school (U.C.L.A. by far) trough the years when people actuslly cared about basketball (which, not coincidently, began with the Bruin rise). U.C.L.A. s greatness is such that
their most classic games are ones which they actually and so rarely lost.
As for post Wooden they are no less successful than any of the others. Final Fours, NCAA title etc. They are simply the greatest because they put the game on the map period. No one gave a shit before the rise of the Bruins. They put the bread on everyone’s table.

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